felt at that point that this was a protest as a result half happened with the film in egypt. he clarified that after more information came in, it was not a protest, but he also did clarify, which is very important and relevant, because this has been a debate for a long period of time, that he made in this statement to us that there were extremists in the group and that they are al qaeda affiliates. some were al qaeda affiliates. and that's very important because that's been a debate for the last three or four weeks. >> congressman king was just here saying his recollection is that yeah, maybe the then director talked about extremist elements but he downplayed it big time. he talked a lot more -- the emphasis at that time -- >> it's all about your perception and the information that you receive. when i was there and chairman rogers was not, he was at another function, my recollection is that we thought it was as a result of a protest and that was the gipping. so the first thing you hear is maybe what you retain. but he also said that in the group there were extremists and some